Unfolding meeting

Europe/Berlin
EVO (at DESY SR 3a)

EVO (at DESY SR 3a)

Gero Flucke (DESY), Thomas Schoerner-Sadenius (DESY)
Description
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Unfolding Meeting, 17.11.2010

People: Nikolai Gagunashvili, Tim Adye,  Fred Stober, Thomas Peiffer, Christoph Rosemann, Pedro Cipriano, Gero Flucke

Excused: Natalie Milke

1) News

  • unfortunately there are no minutes from last meeting
  • Natalie, Tim, Pedro and Gero met last week at DESY , discussing about
    • a TRUEE interface for RooUnfold,
    • Nikolai's blind test proposal
    • some RooUnfold internals
    • a project for Pedro

2) Developments

  • TRUEE interface for RooUnfold
    • need some unbinned Response object: Tim will work on that
    • Gero (with help from Natalie) will look for the exact way to interface
    • seems to be non-trivial...
  • Pedro will try to write a configurable standalone executable for RooUnfold
  • Thomas mentions about TRUEE
    • had problems with TRUEE's pseudo experiment setup
    • problem with distributions going to zero still unsolved?

3) Discussion on Blind Test proposal (see also Gero's slides)

  • for simple tests tester should indeed kow exact response and acceptance - to generate his own training data from that
  • for comparison of algorithms, in the end we need common binning of the output - but we do not have to define it now
  • volume of of dispersion ellipsoid and trace of covariance are well known characteristics of experiments from theory of design of experiments
  • People:
    • Fred Stober can contribute using the SVD method
    • Thomas Peiffer has limited ressources...
  • Nikolai will define acceptance and resolutions functions as well as generate 'measured data' from them and link all that from the Wiki
    • people are encouraged to test and give feedback

4) AOB

  • Gero setups doodle to find a meeting December 13.-16.: http://doodle.com/dhdvax4yg5tuge29
  • Gero will not be around 17.12.2010 till 31.1.2011
  • Nikolai mentions two papers he wrote and will link to the Wiki
    • Parametric fitting of data
    • Machine leraning approach to unfolding

 

 

 

 

There are minutes attached to this event. Show them.
    • 13:00 13:10
      News 10m
      Speaker: Mr Gero Flucke (DESY)
    • 13:10 13:30
      Discussion of Developments 20m
    • 13:30 13:50
      Blind Test Proposal: Discussion 20m
      Slides
    • 13:50 13:55
      AOB 5m