TA6 overall meeting

Thursday 17 Nov 2022, 10:00 → 11:00 Europe/Berlin

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TA6 overall meeting
November 17, 2022

participants:
- Kilian Schwarz
- Hermann Hessling
- Christiane Schneide
- Christopher Huhn
- Alexander Goeggelmann
- Michael Zacharias
- Sebastian Wozniewski
- Guenter Duckeck
- Christoph Wissing
- Ramin Marx
- Lars Mohrmann
- Victoria Tokareva
- Markus Blank-Burian
- Stefan Wagner

TOP1:
General Announcements
synergies have been discussed in Frankfurt Face 2 face meeting (October 24) among NFDI, DMA, ErUM-Data
Schedule for upcoming TA6 meetings
Nov 17, 10 am: TA6 overall meeting
Nov 24, 10 am:  TA6 WP1
Dec 1, 10 am:  TA6 WP2
Dec 8, 10 am:  TA6 WP3
Dec 15, 10 am:  TA6 WP4
Dec 22, 10 am:  TA6 WP5
WPs can alternatively choose Tuesday 4 pmTA6 overall meeting
November 17, 2022

participants:
- Kilian Schwarz
- Hermann Hessling
- Christiane Schneide
- Christopher Huhn
- Alexander Goeggelmann
- Michael Zacharias
- Sebastian Wozniewski
- Guenter Duckeck
- Christoph Wissing
- Ramin Marx
- Lars Mohrmann
- Victoria Tokareva
- Markus Blank-Burian
- Stefan Wagner

 

TOP1:
General Announcements
synergies have been discussed in Frankfurt Face 2 face meeting (October 24) among NFDI, DMA, ErUM-Data
Schedule for upcoming TA6 meetings
Nov 17, 10 am: TA6 overall meeting
Nov 24, 10 am:  TA6 WP1
Dec 1, 10 am:  TA6 WP2
Dec 8, 10 am:  TA6 WP3
Dec 15, 10 am:  TA6 WP4
Dec 22, 10 am:  TA6 WP5
WPs can alternatively choose Tuesday 4 pm
open project accounts at NFDI instance exist now for inter TA activities

TOP2

WP1:
no updates
discussion meeting next week is possible
member institutes have been asked for representatives
AIP (Anastasia or Olaf)
, FZJ, Bonn, DPG, TIB, VDR
(KS wil help finding representatives)
main activities
integration of PUNCH with overall activities as Physics tools
==> bio tools to be extended for Physics (to be renamed to fair. tools)
for antology, there is a large overlap
meeting in January planned, also open to others
Bio Market place one of the most ineresting activities in the field
presented at NFDI market place
comment: MD competent in astronomy for metadata, but Markus is in the loop
Metadata is only one part of it.

continuous integration of archive data
discussion with MD to look into further integration of Astrophysics at large
activites in sections
==> how we can integrate better in PUNCH at all.
Responsiblity of TA6
feedback rather limited
should be better organised to get a better PUNCH view of things
we put this on the agenda of next TA6 overall meeting
Christiane will bring an update, then
integration of activities of NFDI in general: would be useful to have
a larger fraction of PUNCH participants

survey on simulation tools by Juelich (but there TA6 is only partly included, main initiation from Susanne) and on
open software tools by WP4

the one by WP1 was not intended as large survey.
 

WP2:
in AAI coordination meetings it has been discussed that an AAI requirements documents
should be created which is
to be presented in the next inter ta meeting and in next WP2 meeting.
After that the document will be handed over to the Unity developers so that the
missing features in PUNCH AAI can hopefully be implemented.
Document:
https://intra.punch4nfdi.de/?md=/docs/TA6/WP2/aai-requirements.md
Please read and give comments to KS or implement your changes directly (but mark them as changes and by whom)
 

WP3:
slides have been shown:
https://indico.desy.de/event/36956/contributions/132625/attachments/78450/101813/Talk_Hessling_221117_TA6.WP3.pdf
MPIFR hired a person
HTW hired 2 full FTEs (Tanumoy Saha, Marcel Trattner)
   in addition 2 students (Tim Oelkers and Christopher Mauritz) have been hired.
budget which was not used in the past might be available next year
perhaps the additional money can be used for more students
Tim is working on Radio astronomy survey
and on memory based computing
There was a talk on Radio2022
concerning deliverables:
For the first 2 deliverables there were no responsible persons found
(referene guide on publishing data and software)

Maybe Alexander (PTB) may be interested but has no resources
maybe as an intermediate step an overview might help
to both
TIP can be contacted with this question

- dynamic metadata frameworks for integration in PUNCH SDP
(integration of nosql metadata schemes and sql metadata schemes)
 

WP4:
not much new to report
since last meeting in September
list of tools was started by Makarim of HD
survey on data science tools took GD by surprise
SW and GD will clarify this offline
WP5:
no particular news since Goettingen
most WPs to be delivered in far future
groups should think about how deliverables are taken into services
not only about technical solutions
, e.g. AUPs which would apply to the services
proposal and slides have been provided
maybe we can converge on a common set of AUPs
ongoing efforts from Muenster
they provide an openstack system for services
you can run there a service on your own or prototype services
https://intra.punch4nfdi.de/?md=/docs/Marketplace/services/MultiCloud/introduction.md
a process for evaluating services exist.
https://intra.punch4nfdi.de/docs/Marketplace/services/from-deliverable-to-service.pdf

 

AOB:
none
 

 

 

10:00 → 10:05 general announcements

Speaker: Kilian Schwarz (IT (IT Scientific Computing))

10:05 → 10:15 status TA6 WP1 (marketplace)

10:15 → 10:25 status TA6 WP2 (AAI)

10:25 → 10:35 status TA6 WP3 (FAIR principles)

Talk_Hessling_221117_TA6.WP3.pdf

10:35 → 10:45 status TA6 WP4 (open source)

10:45 → 10:55 status TA6 WP5 (services)