participants:
- Kilian
- Sonal R. Patel
- Thomas Gruber
- Christian Felder

TOP1: Use case which covers the whole Data Life Cycle:
there might be use cases which cover the whole data life cycle.
Depends on how smooth it is, how much manual work is required.
What we describe in the white paper does not cover the whole DLC
also ST1 tools do not cover the whole DLC.
Need to be matched with the tools we propose.
We have proposal systems and ASAPO for first mile, then metadata catalogues
storage systems compute infrastructure for jobs and analysis
description about data set published is required.
==> need to think
https://github.com/hz-b/NeXus_data_examples/tree/main
proposed by Sonal
EU wide Nomad instance for publishing data set
local instance internal
public available server
alternative way for data publication
looks like all is covered with respect to pipeline
yes, this could make sense to add this as a user story covering the whole
DLC including a show case how it could look like
==> Sonal can add this as a user story (AI)
Could also work with SciCat
public available data set would be nice for this.

TOP2: DFG Funding Call
HZDR and co can be part of proposal
use case should come from scientists
any time up to 09/27
endangered repositories abroad which are important for Germany
we do not need to find a data set, we only need to provide the infrastructure
DFG is concerned about US projects mainly
Maybe it would be better to make use of a really endangered data set
==> home work: ask local scientists for use case (AI)
if we have a use case: sure
But they explicitely mention infrastructure and resiliency
Christian got a list of examples from Juelich HQ
maybe Xray photo electronic spectroscopy (NIST)
https://srdata.nist.gov/xps
Maybe there is already an alternativ already in Germany
If different groups think of copying this
then there may be several instances in several countries
provide link to Funding DFG line
==> nice use case which would provide money
if we store in ST1 infrastructure
Karlsruhe link existing
https://icsd.fiz-karlsruhe.de/index.xhtml;jsessionid=B9B9AB28DE408B76720E237BF4C85617

TOP3: seminar series
HZDR seminar included
We would like to invite you to the HZDR Data Management Days 2025 (DMD 25), which will take 
place at the HZDR on 11 (hybrid) and 12 (in-person, HZDR-only) November 2025.
This event is aimed at scientists and science managers at HZDR and offers an excellent opportunity to exchange ideas on current developments in the field of research data and software 
management and to help shape future developments.
You can find the final programme at: https://events.hifis.net/event/3053/timetable/
no proposal from our side

TOP4: DMA ST2 text for POF V
add to minutes, read offline, give comments
(AI)

TOP5: look nack to MT Annual Meeting
presentations, was mentioned
not involved in discussions afterwards
comes later with cross talk ?
probably ok
let us see
nothing really bad
no suggestion what should be improved
all as expected
agenda of DMA should have been available earlier


TOP6: White paper
Sonal: 
with respect to chapter: work plan to pilot
HZB, who is contributing ?
Gerrit, see white paper
publish this year ? yes, is possible
use case should be available and running currently
but also visionary use cases should be possible
each centre and community should describe the closest use case to their heart.
As soon as we are ready we should give the paper to Michael B
He will distribute it so that DMA people can give feedback
Then we can publish it to journal

2 weekly schedule for DMA ST1 meetings